105: Ryan Hawk and Brook Cupps — The Score That Matters
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Ryan Hawk is the creator and host of The Learning Leader Show, a top-rated leadership podcast that focuses on learning from the smartest, most creative leaders in the world. He speaks regularly to Fortune 500 companies, works with teams and players in the NFL, NBA, MLB, and NCAA, and facilitates Leadership Circles to offer structured guidance and collaborative feedback to new and experienced leaders. A sought-after professional speaker, he is the author of Welcome to Management and The Pursuit of Excellence, lauded by Forbes magazine as “the best leadership book of 2020” and “the most dynamic leadership book of 2022,” respectively.
Brook Cupps has been a high school basketball coach for more than 20 years, earning several Coach of the Year awards. His teams have won numerous conference, district, and regional championships, as well as Centerville High School’s first-ever basketball state championship in 2021. In addition, he has spent the last eight years coaching grassroots basketball on the AAU circuits, and helped guide the North Coast (Ohio) Blue Chips to national championships in 2014 and 2019. He publishes weekly essays on leadership and coaching on his site, Blue Collar Grit, and is the author of Surrender the Outcome.
They are co-authors of their newest book, The Score That Matters: Growing Excellence in Yourself and Those You Lead.
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